IRB slowdown

10/11/2012: An anonymous correspondent, complaining about the slowdown in IRB approvals and renewals, forwards this email from IRB:
If you plan to continue collecting data from human subjects or analyzing identifiable data you have already collected, you must renew this protocol. If you have completed your work with human subjects and identifiable human subjects data, you must submit a Final Report Form.

Though we are working diligently, our current cycle time for a continuing review application is forty-five days. Currently, the expiration date of this protocol is approximately 45 days from today. Because we have yet to receive your continuing review materials, we cannot guarantee that you will not have a lapse in approval. Please submit your materials as soon as possible if you would like to continue your research.
When Julianna Kyrk was in charge these got done in days.

25 comments:

  1. Dog

    agreed - I am the midst of a stupid delay myself on a student project - by the time we get approval the actual student researchers will likely have graduated.

    This process shouldn't take any longer than a week. Fill out a form - get it approved or
    get feedback on correcting the form...

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  2. Where is Risk Management on this one? The clear incentive here is for researchers to skip the IRB process and hope that nobody complains or finds out. This opens the university to significant risk. Risk Management folks need to step in and mitigate this risk by fixing IRB.

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    1. Indeed. Or we could just adopt Bean's approach, and spend the research money on things like athletics, cops, and online courses.

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    2. That's what happened at UIC in 1999 when all human subjects research got suspended:

      "The report's major finding is that some research at UIC proceeded without ever being submitted for approval by the three units of the institutional review board (IRB). The report says some problems arose from a lack of support staff for the review board, which OPRR blames in part on insufficient attention by UIC officials "at the highest levels.""

      http://www.uic.edu/classes/psych/psych242/Articles/Tribune,%20UIC%20IRB%20articles,%201999.doc

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  3. The one's on Espy. A year ago she restructured and restaffed the human subjects office. It's only gotten worse since then, which is no mean feat considering how bad it was to begin with.

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    1. This was a problem pre-Espy. I decided to do the right thing and contact human subjects with a query about whether some student class work should have human subjects review. I sent a couple of e-mails and left at least two voice mail messages. I received NO response. This was in the fall of 2010.

      I decided to let the students do their class work, which involved a lot of contact with humans, and I stopped trying to ask for permission.

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    2. Dog

      agreed the situation existed pre-espy and also agreed that
      you try to do the right thing, get no response, after months, so screw it, do it anyway ...

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    3. Of course the situation preceded Espy ("considering how bad it was to begin with"). That doesn't excuse her not fixing it.

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  4. Get us the latest Huron docs. Bottle of your choice. Let's end this now.

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    1. You said that last time, then gave me some blended crap.

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    2. Glenfiddich - I just checked, it's still there in the cabinet. Even my kids won't open it.

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    3. Tell your kids that mixing Glenfiddich with sparkling water makes it palatable.

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    4. They're kids, not englishmen.

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    5. Now we're getting more of the UO Matters defamation. It may not be up to your peaty standards, but it isn't blended. And you can always make Rusty Nails with it.

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    6. Sorry, you're right. I meant Johnny Walker Black. The Glenfiddich was very smooth, lasted a few days. Happy to get more Peter - you need any documents?

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    7. Mixing Glenfiddich with sparkling water makes it a cooler.

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  5. UOM will not touch Huron. Must consider miora or less

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    1. It's all about the price - I'm a professional journalist. Make me an offer.

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    2. What was the final $ Huron received. There was a post of how well the department is operating what was the cost? Simple PR request. Do it for the good of the public.

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    3. It's against my principles, but I'll give you this one on credit - Laphroaig as soon as I post the docs. Deal?

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  6. Animal use approval is also a mess.

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    1. Happy Dog says

      well that's good news for me - I am rather tired of being
      experimented on, continually, by UO researchers ... - I already
      don't have enough synapses to put on a circuit board

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  7. Julianna was forced out in late 2009 or so, you posted something about it. Human subjects approval has been a mess ever since.

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  8. Maybe that office is thinking their work will get better if the administration gave out some raises to them like they give themselves.

    I get it....slow down the work until the administration decides to do their "reorganization of the office". Hand out new titles to EVERYONE (cause they changed their duties a little), attach substantial raises and call it a promotion! Then last but not least...get it approved by Penny (easy she is already paid to approve anything) and we will be happier.

    Then they start charging for the paperwork to be reviewed and bingo....success.

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  9. The IRB office is the same office that forces you to disclose conflict of interest every year. They are using all their time, effort, money, and Huron consultants to "step-up" the COI policies and procedures (be on the lookout). Human Subject review is getting put on the back burner.

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