UO Police try out new pro-gun argument

11/26/2012: Expect a rash of these stories from their public affairs office over the next few months. Now that Kitzhaber's put a moratorium on the death penalty, I'm all for locking up bike thieves. The easy fix would be to change the rule that prevents the UO cops from transporting perps to the lock-up. But instead they seem set on using this incident as one more reason why they just must have those Glocks:


Update: The Jack Moran RG story on this incident seems to imply that even if UO had armed police able to transport the thief to the Lane County lock-up, he might well have been released anyway, as had happened before. I've got these questions in to UOPD spokesperson Kelly McIver:
1) What is the text of the rule that prohibits unarmed UOPD from transporting prisoners to the Lane County Jail?
2) What prevented the UOPD from detaining this person until armed EPD were available to transport him?
3) If this person had been transported to the Lane County Jail, would he have been locked up, and if so how long would it have likely been for?
I'll post the answers.
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12 comments:

  1. The reason the South Alabama cops are giving for shooting the naked student? The officer was afraid the kid would get his gun and then shoot him. No armed police, no dead student.

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  2. Did you ever get that police report you requested a month or so back about DPS tacking that guy?

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  3. nope, need a date or a name

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  4. So this is what UO Matters is reduced to. Taking a positive story of UOPD doing something right and finding a way to spin it in a negative light to further their own agenda. "Expect more of these stories..."? I hope so, I like to hear that some dirtbag got arrested. And just out of curiosity, what do you think is the easy fix? If it was just a rule change, why wouldn't it have been done already? I think the bigger story is that EPD couldn't or wouldn't come out, and because of that, the guy only got a few tickets. That bothers me more than cops with guns on campus. But maybe you are happy about EPD not showing up, since it meant the campus still had no cop carrying a gun.

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  5. UOPD wants guns, and they are going to hype every on campus incident that gives any justification for guns while ignoring or downplaying incidents that show the problems with guns. This propaganda started under Doug Tripp and it's going to continue until they finally scare the students into submission. That said I have nothing but respect for the officers who caught this guy - good work and next time I hope you can figure out how to transport him to jail, if the jail actually is accepting non-violent offenders.

    We are currently spending more than $4 million on the UOPD. Tripp is (still) getting paid more than the Eugene Police Chief and presumably the deal for the next chief will be sweeter still. How about cutting back on the UOPD extravagances and weapons and using the savings to fund more cells for perps caught on UO property?

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  6. Good questions, and as someone with law enforcement experience, maybe I can answer some of them;

    1) What is the text of the rule that prohibits unarmed UOPD from transporting prisoners to the Lane County Jail?

    I can't answer this one, so let's move on


    2) What prevented the UOPD from detaining this person until armed EPD were available to transport him?

    I sounds like he was detained and arrested. UOPD can arrest on probable cause, so they arrested him. He was released only because no EPD units could come and transport him. He was CLC'd (cited in lieu of custody). Otherwise, EPD could have sent someone, most likely after shift change when they would have available units but that would have required holding an arrested subject in the back of a patrol car for longer than he would have been in jail, and taken at least one patrol officer out of service while they waited.

    3) If this person had been transported to the Lane County Jail, would he have been locked up, and if so how long would it have likely been for?

    Since it was a property crime and not a violent person crime, he most likely would have been processed and out on the street before breakfast. If the Register Guard can tell us that the person was sentenced to over 100 days in jail and released after less than 24 hours, how long do you think they would have held him for taking a bike and having heroin on him?

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  7. The UO Athletic Dept should just build a jail on campus. I suggest it be located next to the Jock Box.

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  8. dps already has the guns. there is no law or rule barring dps from taking people to jail. all dps has to do is enter into an agreement with the jail and pay for some jail space. dps already has police officers but they are all managers so good luck getting them to do anything. and i guess we won;t be seeing that $7000 savings doug trip and francis dike fed to the legislature in order to get their police. there never was a $7000 savings and they knew it. i guess a $60000 jail van would count as not saving money or $20000 for off road vehicles. or $60000 for each police car they have

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  9. How is an Austrian gun an American icon?

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    1. Because it's the .45 caliber version, Pilgrim.

      The 9mm parabellum version is a German icon: Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    2. Nice answer, but incomplete. The 9mm round was nicknamed the "parabellum" by the German company Luger just before WWI, from the Latin you cite. That was a marketing response to the 1870's Colt 45's very successful "Peacemaker" moniker. To this day the police, naturally, prefer the Peacemaker round!

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  10. Fact of the matter is, the UO did have armed police on campus in the form of a EPD police detail. Doug Tripp and Francis Dyke terminated that contract so they could continue the quest for their own little policing empire. Having said that, there has not been full time armed police on campus since the termination of the EPD contract about 3 years ago. Everybody seems to have survived without armed police, right. What has changed? More bicycle violators or homeless can thieves?
    As for listening to the campus input, why would the guns be purchased before the debate if they intended on listening to your input?

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